More on the Cordoba Center (posted by DT)

I want to post my fisking of an article sent to me recently about the "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy. My comments are in blue.

The Ground Zero Mosque - Lessons from Israel

A Jerusalem Post Column by Daniel Gordis

September 3, 2010
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The Jerusalem Post
September 3, 2010
In its basic form, the Ground Zero mosque debate boils down to a conflict between two competing values - American freedom of religion versus the sensitivities of the families of the victims of 9/11.

Right off the bat he's wrong. Some families of 9/11 victims have come out in favor of the center. Many victims of 9/11 were Muslim themselves.

The freedom-of-religion argument suggests that if Jews sought to build a synagogue at Ground Zero (or anywhere else, for that matter), they would be within their rights. That's the American way. The opposing view suggests that while not every Catholic was guilty in the Holocaust, and not every Muslim perpetrated the crimes of 9/11, sensitivities still matter. Pope John Paul II had the decency to force the Carmelite nuns out of Auschwitz, and Muslim leaders, too, ought to relocate their project.

Similarly, the mutual accusations are parallel: If you are opposed to
the mosque, you are an Islamophobic racist. And if you're in favor of it, you're
simply insensitive to the pain of those who lost loved ones in the attack.

But we Israelis have learned from our experience that matters are more
complicated. One need not be racist or Islamophobic to be concerned about the
mosque. For life in our region has taught us that the first necessary step to
defending yourself is acknowledging that someone else is out to destroy you. This really ticks me off. It's a straw man argument used constantly by the Right. Everyone knows and understands that Al Qaeda is out to get us. The organization developing the Cordoba Center is not out to destroy us.

In the suburban, well-educated, politically and Jewishly liberal America in which I grew up, we didn't use the label "enemy." "Enemy" was a dirty word, because it implied the immutability of conflict.

Yes, there were people who fought us, but only because we hadn't yet arrived at a fair resolution of our conflict. We needed to understand them, so we could then
resolve the conflicts that divided us.

I still recall being jarred, when we made aliya, by the matter-of-factness with which Israelis use the word "enemy." But it wasn't a judgment or an accusation. It was simply a fact: There are people out to destroy our state, who seek to kill us and our children. And as the intifada later amply demonstrated, they did not yearn for our
understanding or our friendship. They wanted our demise. Making this point here implies that all Muslims are our enemies. That may be true in Israel (though I don't think so), but it's certainly not been shown to be true here.

YEARS AGO, we took our then teenage daughter to an evening sponsored by the army, at which religious parents could ask questions about what the army would be like for their daughters. Some of the parents were downright hostile, clearly opposed to the prospect of their daughters joining the IDF. At one point, an obviously angry father stood up, turned to the base commander and asked (or more accurately hissed), "Do you make the girls work on Shabbat?" The room was perfectly silent, for everyone knew the answer. No one moved. Even the base rabbi said nothing. He stood at the podium, leaned into the mike and, lost in thought, played with his beard.

Suddenly, one of the three soldiers who'd been brought to address the parents, a young woman with her uniform shirt buttoned up to her chin, her sleeves extending to her wrists and her armyissued skirt down to her ankles, looked the father right in the eye, and without being called on, said to him, "Of course we work on Shabbat." And then, after a second's pause, she added, "Gam ha'oyev oved beshabbat" - the enemy also works on Shabbat.

It was a game changer. "What?" she essentially asked. "You think we do this for fun?
There are people out there trying to destroy us. Either we're as serious about
this conflict as they are, or they're going to win." Nice story (really- I do like it), but again it has nothing to do with the Cordoba Center.

I hadn't thought of that young woman in years, but ever since the Cordoba Initiative controversy erupted, I've remembered her repeatedly. For Israelis do have something to teach Americans, and it's very similar to what she said to that father.

It goes something like this: It's fine to say that "America is not at war with Islam," to point out that most Muslims are not terrorists and that many American Muslims are moderates. That's true, as far as it goes. Obviously the author doesn't think
it is true. But in fact the vast majority of Muslims in the US, including most especially the Muslims building the Cordoba Center, are not jihadists.

But it only goes so far. Because America is at war and its enemies are Muslims. Politically correct hairsplitting runs the risk of Americans blinding themselves to that simple but critical fact. I think it's time to point out how stupid this argument is. Does he really think that we're going to forget the 9/11 terrorists are Muslim, or that Osama Bin Laden is Muslim? When we were at war with Japan, the US government locked up Japanese-Americans in concentration camps- after all, we were at war and our enemies were Japanese! That's not seen as a very cogent policy now. It makes no difference what percentage of the world's Muslims wants to destroy America. So if 0.000000000001% is the number it's the same as if it's 50%? By that reasoning, there's no ethnic group that can be trusted. There are enough of them that US air travel is now abominably unpleasant and, more importantly, enough of them that more strikes on America appear inevitable. So what do the attacks by Tim McVeigh and subsequent terror incidents by White Americans mean? What are we
supposed to do about those?

The US got lucky on Christmas Day when the bomber headed to Detroit failed to detonate his explosives, and was lucky again in Times Square in May, but less fortunate at Fort Hood. Yet those may be but the beginning. We could, heaven forbid, come to see 9/11 as child's play. 9/11 as child's play? Building off 2 incompetent
attacks by lone people or small groups and one successful attack by a member of
the US armed forces working alone? Where's the trend?

THE UNITED States' future is under attack, but Americans resist admitting it. President Barack Obama has sent 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, but he has also said that he intends to pull them out by July. Can we imagine FDR declaring war on Germany, but then adding that the war had to be over in a year, or in two? It
would have been laughable. And America would have lost. The US has to decide - is it committed to destroying those who wish it ill, or is it willing to be destroyed bythem? Those, sadly, are its only two alternatives. Not really. In Iraq and Afghanistan we need a mission that is attainable. Creating a peaceful democracy that likes us is not realistic. Unlike in WW II, we can bring our army anywhere we want, even to the heart of Afghanistan, but we'll just see the enemy melt away and reform elsewhere. The proper analogy is to Vietnam, not Germany.

When my parents were teenagers, they watched as evil took hold of Europe. But then they saw America turn itself into an unprecedented, enormous military machine. For America's leaders understood that if the Nazis won, the world as we knew it would be over; we could either destroy Nazism, or have no reason to go on.

But when my children were teenagers, a different evil took root across their eastern
horizon. This time, though, the world has feigned impotence.

Iran is at the nuclear threshold. Iraq was at best a "non-failure." The battle against the Taliban and al-Qaida may take years, or decades, and may require many lives
sacrificed if we are to win. But how do we win? We can conquer territory, but that's not winning. I haven't seen a realistic definition of what it means to "win" in Iraq or in Afghanistan. But America has grown war-weary. Americans see the pointlessness of
continuing an occupation that by its very nature sustains the resistance. Obama is already planning to bring the troops home Why wouldn't he? What is to be accomplished in the next few years that hasn't already been accomplished? What's the next goal?; the word "terrorist" is increasingly off-limits in the US because it is considered "politically loaded." That's just BS. The word "terrorist" is used constantly.

Americans simply want the conflict to be over.

Its tendency to gentility is part of what has made America great. But an unwillingness to call an "enemy" an enemy could lead to America's demise. Again, nobody disputes that Al Qaeda is our enemy. For Islam's radical leaders tell us clearly what they seek: a world united under Islam, with America's sacred freedoms eradicated as a new "morality" replaces them. Yes, and I seek ten million dollars. I'm not going to get it and neither are they. Islamic fundamentalism is not an existential threat. What is much less clear is whether Americans are willing to fight - to die and to kill - to protect those freedoms. I think it's been clearly shown that
America is quite willing to kill to protect those freedoms- tens of thousands of
Iraqis have had the good fortune to be examples. The question is whether
doing so is effective.

Whether or not the Ground Zero mosque ultimately gets built may not matter nearly as much as whether or not Americans are willing to gird themselves for the battles that sadly lie ahead. Now here's some truth- the "Ground Zero mosque" doesn't
matter in this war- it's a red herring. We Israelis understand the fatigue that comes with war. We, like Americans, would much prefer a world in which we did not have mortal enemies.

We, like Americans, would much prefer that our children went to college at 18, and not to years of military service. But we've learned that anything short of absolute clear-sightedness and honesty - coupled with extraordinary sacrifice - could destroy us.

The same is true for America. The truly important question that the "Islamophobia"
accusation raises is not what will transpire with a proposed building, but what
will happen with a worldview. Exactly! Is our worldview that the US is dedicated to diversity and religious freedom? Or are we just a mirror image of Islamic fundamentalists, engaged in a holy war, Judeo-Christianity vs. Islam?

It still remains to be seen if America will do what it must if it is to guarantee the survival of the very values it is now debating. America can remain the "land of the free," but only if it is also the "home of the brave." WOW what a twisted view of American values! American values are first and foremost entrenched in our constitution and the Bill of Rights. Nothing is more antithetical to our values than opposing a religious center being built on private property and dedicated to peace with other religions.

Oh, one more thing: "The Ground Zero Mosque" is neither a mosque nor is it located at Ground Zero. It's two city blocks away, with numerous large buildings in between, and is a cultural center with a prayer space- no minaret.